FRAGMENT OF A VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH CHAIRMAN GONZALO

This lengthy video interview with Chairman Gonzalo about ideological and political topics was conducted during an interrogation by the National Intelligence Service of Peru in the days between Chairman Gonzalo‘s arrest on the 12th of September, 1992, and his speech on the 24th of September, 1992. We are publishing this English translation of a fragment of this interview due to the value it has for the communists fighting in Peru and around the world to found or refound their communist parties, even though it originates from reactionary sources. It is a pending and very necessary task to transcribe, translate and publish the entire video interview in both text and video formats in different languages — a task which we will take up as soon as the possibility exists.

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FRAGMENT OF A VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH CHAIRMAN GONZALO

Chairman Gonzalo
September 1992

Red SunTranslated and reproduced by
The Red Flag

FRAGMENT OF A VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH CHAIRMAN GONZALO

1. THE COMMUNISTS

To see how people moved in electoral times, and some of them turned out to be marxists, even communists, but not organized, when the principles… Who is not organized is not a communist, that is the simple and concrete thing. The reason that moved them? The elections, the candidacies of deputies, senators. What is called opportunists, obviously.

2. TRANSFORMATIVE IDEAS

For the revolution to socialism, in which we must see one thing, it was not very clear… very clear… the question of the character of the stages of the revolution, today… well, today even more so, years ago, it seems to me that this was extreme… Nobody is born knowing, nobody has brilliant and clear ideas at the beginning, nobody was born a genius, it is absurd. There are those who believe that from a problem, they have already seen until the consummation of time what is going to come out… it is not like that… Every idea is born at the beginning confused and obscure, until it becomes clear, it requires time, facts, action, because the transformative action, no matter how modest it may be, is the one that sows the idea. Man is a being, in my understanding, as I have understood Marx, man: Action transforming the world, it is by doing that action transforming the world that man generates ideas, generates thought […] first it was the political fact, then the political idea, and Peruvian history proves it to satiety. The conquest proves this.

3. THE DIRECTORS

I don‘t say that directors have to be highly enlightened: I don‘t believe in that. I think that first of all they have to have a class position. They have to be on the side of the people, because they are on the side of the people, of their position, they feel for them, they have their will, they want what they want and they think the way they think. Look at what you have to take all that and turn it into a criterion that grasps the law of the process; that is the obligation and that policy to turn it into reality, into facts, and into organizational apparatus… as a combat weapon, enough… and with that rich polemic of marxism-leninism-maoism, it made us stronger, it made us more confident, more resolute, more convinced […] more communist, because to be a communist is not something which happens overnight.

4. THE FIRMNESS AND RESOLVE OF A COMMUNIST

In the drafting of the documents, they were already going to kill each other, now they want separation, they really believed that because they marginalized you, the world was going to collapse, the world never collapses, man is always on top, the sky is going to tremble and you are going to get away with it, you will never tremble, you should not be confused by false earthquakes, after all, if there is an earthquake the whole house falls down, you remove the rubble and continue working, it is a principle. By then the Faction said this way, the problem is that the Party is the Party, and if the Party is destroyed you have to build it once more and that‘s it, if it is destroyed ten times you get up eleven times and if it is eleven times then twelve. It has always been like that, […] it is the firm resolution of the class, I think it is important […] One has to be resolved. Do they have the will? If they don‘t have will, if they have a will that crashes, brittle, what the hell is it going to be? Butter? What the hell is it good for, it is good for nothing, one must have a mind like that, if a wall opposes me then I knock it down, nothing must ever stop it, like that, that is the schooling of a communist, we had a hard fight, but the documents were imposed and corresponded to what was approved.